'Oh that's it? [...] We can pay more than that': Boss tries to convince employee to stay by offering higher salary and trash talking new job

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Ben Weiss • Writer and Editor
Jun 25, 2023 2:00 PM EDT

We sincerely hope this employee doesn't fall for her boss's desperate shenanigans. Essentially, this Redditor had a meeting with her intimidating boss to inform them that she will be departing the company for a new job. After some pressing, OP revealed that the new position's salary was part of her decision-making.

 

That's when the boss decided to desperately try to manipulate the employee into staying by first offering to pay more. But wait, it gets worse. Next, the boss thought it would be a good idea to talk smack about the Redditor's new company and boss. Obviously, this is in poor form, and clearly, the Redditor has developed a toxic relationship with her boss that has allowed her to be much more easily manipulated. 

 

But here's the thing (and OP, if you're listening, please take this into account when you're deciding what to do next): if she were to say yes to the counteroffer, OP's boss would immediately start looking for a reason to fire OP and/or start looking for a replacement out of spite. Now, it seems like the Redditor is not leaning in this direction considering her rhetorical question regarding why her boss didn't give her a raise this whole time if they could have done it. What's more concerning here, however, are the second thoughts she's having about her new company. Her current boss clearly had reason to make OP feel bad about their new career choice. If that wasn't clear to OP, then she has lots of self-reflection and self-esteem building to do.  

 

Keep scrolling below for the full story. For more, check out this story about an employer who had to fire her in-laws.

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    Computer - Esc ➜ 1 CapsLk Ctrl "Oh, that's it? [...] We can pay more than that" A N X C * 8 I QUIT! 8 F9 9 08 F10 O AUG.
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    Font - I had a meeting to resign for a new job and my boss all over the new company I got a new job offer from a company I felt really good about. The management just seems really chill and talked about caring about each others time as some people have kids and other life things and they end early on fridays and have 3 days WFH etc.
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    Font - I feel really uncomfortable. I was nervous to resign from what has been a really weird toxic codependent workplace and to be respectful I had a meeting with my boss first.
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  • 04
    Font - In the meeting my boss offered me way more money than the new company and was like "oh that's it? you're leaving for that amount? we can pay more than that"
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    Font - and then guessed where I'm going (its a competitor) and when I told him he on the company. He said the CEO is a narcissist and the company is "widely disliked by colleagues and clients" and "its like what goldman sachs was before it ended" things like that.. He also was like I wish you spoke to me earlier we would have happily promoted you and paid you what you deserve.
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    Font - It's made me feel really uncomfortable and if you're suddenly willing to pay me (not USD) 8000 more a month and promote me to the title the new company is offering why didn't you do it before?
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    Font - But his on my new company has spun my head around too. I hate to even feel this way because I was previously so excited. Idk if its just that I'm trauma bonded to this boss and I care what he thinks because of that or what.
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    Font - atlanticzealot. 19 hr. ago As a rule it's a bad idea to accept counter offers from the company you are leaving. His opinions are heavily biased here and should carry no weight. Smile, move on, and don't look back. 1.2k Reply Share
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    Font - Charming_Foot_495. 13 hr. ago I was in this same situation. Current company offered me even more than the new and I stayed. After 4 months, I realized why I was looking for a new position in the first place, and the massive increase in pay wasn't enough. I ended up leaving for another new company anyway. Staying never works out. 250 Reply Share
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    Rectangle - gmthisfeller 19 hr. ago If they could pay you more, why didn't they? Clear your head. Look to the future. Move on and don't look back. 869 Reply Share
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    Font - Impossible_Total_924 6 hr. ago I suggest you think about this boss in past tense. Unfortunately, he didn't really value your contributions yesterday He won't value your contributions in the future. Move forward and don't look back. Change is difficult, but it sounds like change is required. 103 Reply Share
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    Font - ErnestT_bass 18 hr. ago I had the same experience "if you had stayed you were up for a promotion"... No hole the only reason you said it to me is because I am leaving... Sick and tired of the games they played 294 Reply Share
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    Font - s33761 18 hr. ago Everything he said was a lie, and makeing you feel about your new job was the goal. 281 Reply Share
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    Font - jharkness09 18 hr. ago He's lying. Everything he said about the new firm is probably what's going on at your current firm. As far as the "promotion" I'm sure if you went to him without an offer he'd have 34 excuses as to why the company just can't afford it right now. Finish your time and watch your back with this guy. Also PSA here - you are not required to divulge why you're leaving, where you're going and how much you'll be making. All you need to tell them is the date of your last day
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    Font - Lsutigers202111. 18 hr. ago Never take the counter. 9 times out of ten It's just a delay tactic to find your replacement 146 Reply Share
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    Rectangle - StaticXster70 - 17 hr. ago So he was underpaying and overworking you, but the competitor is run by a narcissist? Project much?
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    Font - Turbomiata117. 17 hr. ago As soon as you say yes he will immediately look for ways to get rid of you. He can't have an employee that expensive, so you will stay there for the next year and then be terminated because the company no longer needs your position. He is trying to ruin your opportunity at the new job by dangling a carrot in front of you that he will later take away.
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    Font - 00 Negative_Rub6127 17 hr. ago Your current boss is insecure. All of his actions are using fear and doubt to keep you until your replacement is in place. And he's really bad at it.
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    Font - Assuming you're in continental USA, that 8000/month increase is too much. It covers 1-2 headcount without including your current compensation. It's a clear signal you're going to be let go at the first opportunity.
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    Font - You should never denigrate your competitors. As you're seeing right now, you might wind up wanting to work for them. Also, it signals a lack of integrity to prospects, customers, and potential employees.
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    Font - This should all reinforce your confidence that your new position is a great move! If you want to stick it to the jerk, don't let it get to you and use your all your nonverbal communication to show that you are the happiest person in the company. This guy is going to ise you as an try to emotional punching bag, deny him that and he'll go crazy. Exercise the word "No"; especially by setting limits as to what you can accomplish in your remaining time. When this jerk comes at you with request
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